Par lidi se ptalo na timming ITGcka.

Hodim sem tohle, kdyztak to upravte, oka?


Hodil bych sem moje, ale pote co jsem si synchronizoval offset na SM CVS 3.95 si nejsem moc jisty jestli to bude presne i tpo vas. No dam sem to dulezite, pozdeji upravim (referencni strance totiz propadl hosting, takze si to nemohu overit):
-- ha povedlo se, zlata google cache:

(zvyraznim to dulezite)

citace:

[Debug] ForceLogFlush=1 LogCheckpoints=0 LogFPS=0 LogSkips=0 LogToDisk=1 ShowLoadingWindow=1 ShowLogOutput=0 Timestamping=0 [Editor] ShowBGChangesPlay=1 [Options] AdditionalFolders= AdditionalSongFolders= AllowExtraStage=0 AllowUnacceleratedRenderer=0 AnisotropicFiltering=0 ArcadeOptionsNavigation=1 AttractSoundFrequency=1 AutoMapJoysticks=1 AutoPlay=0 AutoRestart=0 AutogenGroupCourses=0 AutogenSteps=0 BGBrightness=0.400000 BackgroundMode=3 BannerCache=2 BlinkGameplayButtonLightsOnNote=1 BoostAppPriority=-1 BreakComboToGetItem=0 Caution=1 CelShadeModels=0 CenterImageScaleX=1.000000 CenterImageScaleY=1.000000 CenterImageTranslateX=0 CenterImageTranslateY=0 CoinMode=0 CoinsPerCredit=1 ComboContinuesBetweenSongs=1 ConstantUpdateDeltaSeconds=0.000000 CourseSortOrder=1 CoursesToShowRanking= DancePointsForOni=0 DefaultLocalProfileIDP1= DefaultLocalProfileIDP2= DelayedCreditsReconcile=1 DelayedEscape=0 DelayedModelDelete=0 DelayedScreenLoad=0 DelayedTextureDelete=1 DisableScreenSaver=1 DisplayColorDepth=32 DisplayHeight=480 DisplayWidth=640 Disqualification=1 EasterEggs=0 EndlessBreakEnabled=1 EndlessBreakLength=5 EndlessStagesUntilBreak=5 EventMode=0 FastLoad=0 FirstRun=0 ForceMipMaps=0 GetRankingName=0 GlobalOffsetSeconds=-0.000000 GradePercentTier01=1.000000 GradePercentTier02=0.990000 GradePercentTier03=0.980000 GradePercentTier04=0.960000 GradePercentTier05=0.940000 GradePercentTier06=0.920000 GradePercentTier07=0.890000 GradePercentTier08=0.860000 GradePercentTier09=0.830000 GradePercentTier10=0.800000 GradePercentTier11=0.760000 GradePercentTier12=0.720000 GradePercentTier13=0.680000 GradePercentTier14=0.640000 GradePercentTier15=0.600000 GradePercentTier16=0.550000 GradePercentTier17=-1000.000000 GradePercentTier18=0.000000 GradePercentTier19=0.000000 GradePercentTier20=0.000000 GradeTier02IsAllPerfects=0 GradeWeightBoo=-6 GradeWeightGood=0 GradeWeightGreat=2 GradeWeightHitMine=-6 GradeWeightMarvelous=5 GradeWeightMiss=-12 GradeWeightNG=0 GradeWeightOK=5 GradeWeightPerfect=4 HiddenSongs=1 HideDefaultNoteSkin=1 HowToPlay=0 IgnoredMessageWindows=FRAME_DIMENSIONS_WARNING Interlaced=0 JudgeWindowAdd=0.002000 JudgeWindowScale=1.000000 JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.130000 JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000 JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000 JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.102000 JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.021500 JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.070000 JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.320000 JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.043000 Language= LastSeenInputDevices= LastSeenMemory= LastSeenVideoDriver= LifeDeltaPercentChangeBoo=-0.050000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeGood=0.000000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeGreat=0.004000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeHitMine=-0.050000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeMarvelous=0.008000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeMiss=-0.100000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeNG=-0.080000 LifeDeltaPercentChangeOK=0.008000 LifeDeltaPercentChangePerfect=0.008000 LifeDifficultyScale=1.000000 LightsStepsDifficulty=medium LockCourseDifficulties=1 LongVerSeconds=210.000000 MachineName=NoName MarathonVerSeconds=99999.000000 MarvelousTiming=2 MaxHighScoresPerListForMachine=10 MaxHighScoresPerListForPlayer=1 MaxRegenComboAfterFail=10 MaxRegenComboAfterMiss=10 MaxTextureResolution=2048 MemoryCardOsMountPointP1= MemoryCardOsMountPointP2= MemoryCardProfileSubdir=StepMania MemoryCardUsbBusP1=-1 MemoryCardUsbBusP2=-1 MemoryCardUsbLevelP1=-1 MemoryCardUsbLevelP2=-1 MemoryCardUsbPortP1=-1 MemoryCardUsbPortP2=-1 MemoryCards=1 MenuTimer=0 MercifulDrain=0 MercifulSuperMeter=1 MinPercentageForMachineCourseHighScore=0.000100 MinPercentageForMachineSongHighScore=0.000100 Minimum1FullSongInCourses=1 MoveRandomToEnd=1 MovieColorDepth=32 MusicWheelSwitchSpeed=15 MusicWheelUsesSections=2 NumArcadeStages=5 NumBackgrounds=10 NumGradeTiersUsed=17 PAL=0 PadStickSeconds=0.050000 PalettedBannerCache=1 PercentScoreWeightBoo=-6 PercentScoreWeightGood=0 PercentScoreWeightGreat=2 PercentScoreWeightHitMine=-6 PercentScoreWeightMarvelous=5 PercentScoreWeightMiss=-12 PercentScoreWeightNG=0 PercentScoreWeightOK=5 PercentScoreWeightPerfect=4 PercentageScoring=1 PickExtraStage=1 Premium=0 ProductID=1 ProgressiveLifebar=0 ProgressiveNonstopLifebar=0 ProgressiveStageLifebar=0 RefreshRate=75 RegenComboAfterFail=10 RegenComboAfterMiss=5 ScoringType=0 ScreenTestMode=0 ShowBanners=1 ShowBeginnerHelper=0 ShowDancingCharacters=0 ShowDanger=1 ShowLyrics=0 ShowNative=1 ShowSelectGroup=0 ShowSongOptions=0 ShowStats=0 SignProfileData=0 SmoothLines=1 SoloSingle=0 SoundDevice= SoundResampleQuality=1 SoundVolume=0.700000 SoundWriteAhead=0 SubSortByNumSteps=1 SuperMeterPercentChangeBoo=0.000000 SuperMeterPercentChangeGood=0.000000 SuperMeterPercentChangeGreat=0.020000 SuperMeterPercentChangeHitMine=-0.400000 SuperMeterPercentChangeMarvelous=0.050000 SuperMeterPercentChangeMiss=-0.200000 SuperMeterPercentChangeNG=-0.200000 SuperMeterPercentChangeOK=0.040000 SuperMeterPercentChangePerfect=0.040000 TextureColorDepth=32 TexturePreload=0 ThreadedInput=1 ThreadedMovieDecode=1 TrilinearFiltering=0 TugMeterPercentChangeBoo=-0.010000 TugMeterPercentChangeGood=0.000000 TugMeterPercentChangeGreat=0.004000 TugMeterPercentChangeHitMine=-0.040000 TugMeterPercentChangeMarvelous=0.010000 TugMeterPercentChangeMiss=-0.020000 TugMeterPercentChangeNG=-0.020000 TugMeterPercentChangeOK=0.008000 TugMeterPercentChangePerfect=0.008000 TwoPlayerRecovery=0 UseDedicatedMenuButtons=0 UseUnlockSystem=1 VideoRenderers=opengl,d3d Vsync=1 Windowed=1

-strucne, nastavit judge-wokna, bodovani (-12, -6, 0, 4, 5), prenaseni komba, grades na 17 (vice hodnoceni)


Presne tohle je ve zdrojaku ITG pro PS2:

citace:

// Timing windows to match DDR EX with the exception of a slightly larger marvelous window JudgeWindowScale=1.000000 // don't allow overriding of timing JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.070000 JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000 JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000 JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.102000 JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.043000 JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.021500 JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.320000 JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.130000 // Set this on all plaforms because many home pads are sticky too. PadStickSeconds=0.05 // Grade weights are equal to percent score weights, and not equal to life weights. // Weights are proportional to DDR except: // - Our Marvelous is worth slightly more than perfect. // - Our OK is worth less proportionally less. GradeWeightHitMine=-6 GradeWeightMiss=-12 GradeWeightBoo=-6 GradeWeightGood=0 GradeWeightGreat=2 GradeWeightPerfect=4 GradeWeightMarvelous=5 GradeWeightNG=0 GradeWeightOK=5 PercentScoreWeightHitMine=-6 PercentScoreWeightMiss=-12 PercentScoreWeightBoo=-6 PercentScoreWeightGood=0 PercentScoreWeightGreat=2 PercentScoreWeightPerfect=4 PercentScoreWeightMarvelous=5 PercentScoreWeightNG=0 PercentScoreWeightOK=5 LifeDeltaPercentChangeHitMine=-0.050 LifeDeltaPercentChangeMiss=-0.100 LifeDeltaPercentChangeBoo=-0.050 LifeDeltaPercentChangeGood=0.0 LifeDeltaPercentChangeGreat=0.004 LifeDeltaPercentChangePerfect=0.008 LifeDeltaPercentChangeMarvelous=0.008 LifeDeltaPercentChangeNG=-0.080 LifeDeltaPercentChangeOK=0.008 TugMeterPercentChangeHitMine=-0.080 TugMeterPercentChangeMiss=-0.080 TugMeterPercentChangeBoo=-0.040 TugMeterPercentChangeGood=0.0 TugMeterPercentChangeGreat=0.004 TugMeterPercentChangePerfect=0.008 TugMeterPercentChangeMarvelous=0.010 TugMeterPercentChangeNG=-0.080 TugMeterPercentChangeOK=0.008 GradeTier02IsAllPerfects=0 NumGradeTiersUsed=17 GradePercentTier01=1.00 // quad star (SM's AAAA) GradePercentTier02=0.99 // triple star GradePercentTier03=0.98 // double star (~DDR's AAA) GradePercentTier04=0.96 // single star GradePercentTier05=0.94 // S+ GradePercentTier06=0.92 // S (~DDR's AA) GradePercentTier07=0.89 // S- GradePercentTier08=0.86 // A+ GradePercentTier09=0.83 // A (~DDR's A) GradePercentTier10=0.80 // A- GradePercentTier11=0.76 // B+ GradePercentTier12=0.72 // B (~DDR's B) GradePercentTier13=0.68 // B- GradePercentTier14=0.64 // C+ GradePercentTier15=0.60 // C (~DDR's C) GradePercentTier16=0.55 // C- GradePercentTier17=-1000// D

.. taky muzu uploadnout pad sm.ini konfiguraku, ale nevim jestli vam to k necemu bude. Taky muzu popsat, jak zprovoznit profil na USB klicence.

A pokud jeste nestaci, tady mate moje INI soubory a hrajte si http://ddr.pocitac.com/files/stepmania-ini.rar

Potvrzeno, takze to (pry) je:

citace:

JudgeWindowAdd=0.002000 JudgeWindowScale=1.000000 JudgeWindowSecondsAttack=0.130000 JudgeWindowSecondsBoo=0.180000 JudgeWindowSecondsGood=0.135000 JudgeWindowSecondsGreat=0.102000 JudgeWindowSecondsMarvelous=0.021500 JudgeWindowSecondsMine=0.070000 JudgeWindowSecondsOK=0.320000 JudgeWindowSecondsPerfect=0.043000 JudgeWindowSecondsRoll=0.350000

Dik za info.

// Set this on all plaforms because many home pads are sticky too.
PadStickSeconds=0.05


tohle musim ozkouset.

S'Tsung napsal:

// Set this on all plaforms because many home pads are sticky too. PadStickSeconds=0.05 tohle musim ozkouset.

Funguje to, zmizely vsechny ty dvojkliky omylem. Thxsoft!

Jeste jedno doplneni. Zjistil jsem, ze JD1-JD8 v podstate urcuje koeficient, kterym se okno zvetsuje nebo zmensuje. Takze:
JD1 = 150%
JD4 = 100%
JD8 = 33%
a uklada se to primo do JudgeWindowScale

takze JD4 je ten timing, ktery je zadany v ini

Taky jsem si v ini obravil bodovani, takze mi uz na pri SDG nenaskoci 89% (puvodne jsem myslel, ze bodovani je soucast skinu).

Jo to jsem zjistila taky. Sice v procentech o tom myslet me opravdu nenapadlo. Pocitala jsem to v ms. ale mas pravdu...avsak proc se berou JD4 hodnoty jako na zaklad kdyz JD4 se v DDR nachazi max. tak v DS EM2 na prvnim stage?
(vim jsem v ITG..a no nic...)

Protoze jsem to v praxi neotestoval, tak se nechci hadat .. ale judge se na nastavovat jak v ITG tak v DDR a podle tohodle to vypada, ze je to vzdynastaveno na default (medium - JD4), teda pokud to ardace master nezmeni.

U nonstopu .. dejme tomu, ze se to v prubehu meni, ale pisou o tom nekde?

Ok. koukla jsem do ctyrech manualu co tu mam. no vsude stejny..ale v praxi to tak neni...a korejci se teda s manualem moc nevysvihli.

nechcete mi nekdo upnout ITGckovy nastaveni, nevim presne co potrebuju predelat, krom judge a rad bych si udelal druhou instanci stepmanie s ITG complete

Bee_Boo napsal:

nechcete mi nekdo upnout ITGckovy nastaveni, nevim presne co potrebuju predelat, krom judge a rad bych si udelal druhou instanci stepmanie s ITG complete

Noo ono staci prepsat ty judge v StepMania.ini (musis mit oddelene jeden pro ddr a druhej pro itg) a potom nahodit nejakej ITG themes (dneska asi nejlepsi na jednicku je ITG 500Z) ... popr. metalickej noteskin a to je vsechno. StepMania.ini ... o ten si radsi rekni nejakymu wokynkari ... je tam asi dost veci platform specific.

EDIT : nejak je ta stranka s ITG themem off ... tak to hazim na rapida

EDIT: tu[/url]

WerK napsal:

Bee_Boo napsal: nechcete mi nekdo upnout ITGckovy nastaveni, nevim presne co potrebuju predelat, krom judge a rad bych si udelal druhou instanci stepmanie s ITG complete Noo ono staci prepsat ty judge v StepMania.ini (musis mit oddelene jeden pro ddr a druhej pro itg) a potom nahodit nejakej ITG themes (dneska asi nejlepsi na jednicku je ITG 500Z) ... popr. metalickej noteskin a to je vsechno. StepMania.ini ... o ten si radsi rekni nejakymu wokynkari ... je tam asi dost veci platform specific. EDIT : nejak je ta stranka s ITG themem off ... tak to hazim na rapida EDIT: tu[/url]

thx, sosnul jsem czddr themesu ITG takze tak, ini jsem upravil podle toho nahore a hral jsem, ted sosnu to od tebe, snad jediny co mi tam chybi je ten noteskin doufam

ITG se hraje na CVS verzi s CVS noteskinama a CVS themesem (treba Groove 2.2). Pak makaj rollsy a noteskiny. A kdyz mate spravne nastaveny sm.ini, tak i pocitani (tiers, okna, procenta..)

xsoft napsal:

ITG se hraje na CVS verzi s CVS noteskinama a CVS themesem (treba Groove 2.2). Pak makaj rollsy a noteskiny. A kdyz mate spravne nastaveny sm.ini, tak i pocitani (tiers, okna, procenta..)

To je pekne ale jak na to?

Tak jo, dalsi lame dotaz, jak se pozna CVS themesa od normalni? krom toho ze CVS build se musi pres nejakej divnej soft sosat z netu :/

Hm tak vim, ale tohle je spatnej vtip: http://buzzert.zanneth.com/groove2/grvdownload.html

:EDIT: tak jo, prej jeste neni hotove
a moje lame prispevky klidne smazte, pripadam si jak debil, i kdyz, vyznat se na foru kde ma kazdy pod dvema slovy prispevku pul stranky *censored**censored**censored**censored**censored**censored**censored* obrazku, je docela humac :/

:EDIT2: tak mam CVS 4.0 nahazim tam themesu a pri prepnuti themesy to zhavaruje, vzhledem k tomu ze jsem neprogramator tak se na to asi vykaslu a budu to hrat na predelane stepmanii obyc, kde mi to jede a ne na nejakem pochybnem beta CVS ... :/ chjo, aha tak novy poznatek, ono to zhavaruje i kdyz nezmenim themesu, udejne nejaky neznamy format noteskinu ...

Bee_Boo: neboj, nejsi sam ... zli stepmania developeri uz to CVS nepisou prenosne, ale v Miscrosoft Visual Zlu + Direct Zlu ... takze si to na tucnackovi nezahraju Ale klasik StepMania 3.9 s tim ITG 500Z mi pocita uplne stejne jako arkada a po dvojce zatim nejak netouzim